tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post9073958246451283846..comments2024-03-28T03:41:35.776-07:00Comments on Illogical Contraption: BROMANTIC INTERLUDE #14: The Return of The Revenge of The Son of HELMShelby Cobrashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04077451792653323915noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-42497708302102901882014-01-01T02:41:11.214-08:002014-01-01T02:41:11.214-08:00still meaningfull. let us not be bind.still meaningfull. let us not be bind.knifetoothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02626123032500629329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-62037981711008748152010-12-10T12:05:39.899-08:002010-12-10T12:05:39.899-08:00Wait a minute...! What about Obliveon??? -sigh- A ...Wait a minute...! What about Obliveon??? -sigh- A crime...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-81209505732666160962010-08-26T06:40:00.061-07:002010-08-26T06:40:00.061-07:00Excellent post, I am of course way into Voivod and...Excellent post, I am of course way into Voivod and Coroner, I like Watchtower but I haven't heard any of the other bands. I started following your replies on Invisible Oranges (the only reason I go to that blog is to read your replies) and I'm glad you're here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-2825421009840256362010-07-22T04:42:33.029-07:002010-07-22T04:42:33.029-07:00Absolutely. Especially the track "Machinery&q...Absolutely. Especially the track "Machinery", does it for me on both musical and lyrical levels.Helmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00584102280299430293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-26253214244891461372010-07-21T22:42:38.274-07:002010-07-21T22:42:38.274-07:00My favorite album in this genre (I guess) is Death...My favorite album in this genre (I guess) is Deathrow's "Deception Ignored." It has really great guitar work on it...UAhttp://erebusmagazine666.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-11452212391161676812010-07-20T17:48:52.209-07:002010-07-20T17:48:52.209-07:00Yes, the demo is more thrashy, as is the Desacrato...Yes, the demo is more thrashy, as is the Desacrator demo before it, but I think it's cutting it a bit close to include a demo of a band as technothrash that went on to do 6-7 LPs, most of them at different styles.<br /><br />I love Thought Industry and more people should know about them, let's just not try to shoehorn them in this idiom :)<br /><br />Thanks for the dialogue, by the way. I don't generally have the best experiences with internet anonymous, so that's nice.Helmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00584102280299430293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-41900847323220610682010-07-20T16:58:28.029-07:002010-07-20T16:58:28.029-07:00helm, I guess you have a point about thought indus...helm, I guess you have a point about thought industry-most of their stuff wasn't super thrash-y. However, their demo was a little more "thrash" with the song "the final ballet" and what not. But Yeah, I guess that makes sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-76909067746814853812010-07-20T09:09:49.768-07:002010-07-20T09:09:49.768-07:00Oh yeah, I remember him, he has the Aspid avatar. ...Oh yeah, I remember him, he has the Aspid avatar. This sort of music is his sort of music, yes. I'm glad to see he writes reviews too, because I can read them!<br /><br />Thanks for the info.Helmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00584102280299430293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-54910287427451861482010-07-20T08:32:14.570-07:002010-07-20T08:32:14.570-07:00Helm, that comment was HamburgerBoy's over Met...Helm, that comment was HamburgerBoy's over Metal-Archives. He posts a little on Corroseum as well I think.Nekromantishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03439391978636334926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-48690528577857407372010-07-20T06:17:08.260-07:002010-07-20T06:17:08.260-07:00Well, there are a *lot* of ommissions. An even par...Well, there are a *lot* of ommissions. An even partial techno-thrash list would have to have the types of Megace, Paralysis, Flaming Anger, Secrecy, lots of artists mentioned. But there was no such list.<br /><br />Thought Industry put out their first record in 1992 and although there are fragments of thrash in it, and they are certainly technical, I think it's safe to say they're best described as a post-metal band, not even a progressive metal band. The latter definition they resented because in their mind it hearkens back to stuff like Fates Warning (which while correct, they found unflattering and misleading a connotation for Thought Industry) whereas their trajectory through metal and beyond makes the former definition the case. They were always a punk-minded band that had metal chops (but not only), they never subscribed to any metal aesthetic. It could be argued they have ties to Voivod but that's as far as I'd go.<br /><br />Which isn't to say I don't love their discography (yes, even the sub-Radioheadisms). They're just not relevant to an article about technothrash. I think they'd agree if you asked them.<br /><br />Nekromantis, that helps a lot! To whom does the comment belong to? His way of describing thematics and song morphology at the same time appeals to me because I tend to do the same.<br /><br />Elmo, I appreciate your kind words.Helmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00584102280299430293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-55177935942977600452010-07-20T04:46:55.867-07:002010-07-20T04:46:55.867-07:00you talk about technothrash and do NOT mention Tho...you talk about technothrash and do NOT mention Thought Industry? Bummer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-14491561685532656172010-07-20T03:55:21.945-07:002010-07-20T03:55:21.945-07:00Argh! I should double-check blogspot comments ALWA...Argh! I should double-check blogspot comments ALWAYS before posting. Just pretend it stops at the final quotation mark.Nekromantishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03439391978636334926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-45898963513143738802010-07-20T03:52:36.225-07:002010-07-20T03:52:36.225-07:00Also here's a bit about Coroner's Pale Sis...Also here's a bit about Coroner's Pale Sister that may or may not help you. It's not my interpretation but it appeals to me.<br /><br />"Coroner's Pale Sister. Shortest on the album, track 6 out of 8, not one of the most promising song titles, must be filler, right? Not at all. It breaks the album's streak of being relatively mid-tempo and wall-of-sound based as a fast thrasher, but does so in a very atypical way. The riffs are stop-start (no bottom fret chugging constancy) yet very fast giving it almost a boogie feeling, further realized by Marquis dropping the typical thrash beat for what feels like an endless wave of jazzy drum fills. What really amazes me is that despite being a song about nuns and overzealous religion instead of some grandiose story of battle or exploration, I still see images from it. The riffing is so tight and changes with such frequency that I can imagine a nun resisting the pitfalls of sin, and as the song builds up so does her frustration. Eventually she is overcome; sounds of Church bells chime over the doom-laden post-chorus, and wash in an evil wall of distortion. Does the following pause signify her end? Decidedly not, when a thoroughly decadent breakdown is given as the final temptation. It's practically ragtime-thrash, with the catchiest and most dance worthy riff in metal I've ever heard. Vetterli breaks out a fantastic equally swingin' guitar solo of likes that could only be enhanced by having Satan play an upright piano with the song's protagonist laying on top, legs seductively crossed towards the listener."<br /><br />It's not my reNekromantishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03439391978636334926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-45012853372759854942010-07-20T03:39:04.969-07:002010-07-20T03:39:04.969-07:00"I think the way you describe music makes me ..."I think the way you describe music makes me listen to it even closer, if that makes sense...?"<br /><br />Makes perfect sense to me as I feel the same sometimes. For example I had wrote off Sieges Even as a boring Watchtower variation before but now aside from few all time favourites on this "mixtape" David was the song I liked the most. They might be Watchtower clones on their debut but they aren't boring at all. Also I've been meaning to give some attentive listens to Aspid and this really fueled my interest in them a little more.Nekromantishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03439391978636334926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-21557803208764359242010-07-19T23:58:31.557-07:002010-07-19T23:58:31.557-07:00Hey Helm,
you are great. In the limited experienc...Hey Helm,<br /><br />you are great. In the limited experience I have gained so far browsing music-blogs, your writing sticks out a long way above everyone else not only because it is very thourough and well-written, but because the topics are comprehensive and sensible in their dimensions.<br /><br />If the music is anything as good as your descriptions, the next days are going to be great.<br /><br />Thank you.Elmonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-23242049122552407942010-07-19T19:47:11.696-07:002010-07-19T19:47:11.696-07:00http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4XMOLGX6
here's ...http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4XMOLGX6<br /><br />here's a new link.<br /><br />Cobras' out of town. If any other users with editing privileges want to put the new link in the text above that'd be really appreciated, but if not, I'm sure the interested parties will check the comments too.Helmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00584102280299430293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-80289691128435219792010-07-19T19:28:14.197-07:002010-07-19T19:28:14.197-07:00thanks a lot, Helm! I hadn't heard of most of ...thanks a lot, Helm! I hadn't heard of most of these bands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-71950174634901791602010-07-19T18:41:40.237-07:002010-07-19T18:41:40.237-07:00What's that bullshit? Uploading to different p...What's that bullshit? Uploading to different providers now. Expect updated links in a couple of hours.Helmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00584102280299430293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-81226282456140598742010-07-19T18:32:01.960-07:002010-07-19T18:32:01.960-07:00awe shit, link limits been reachedawe shit, link limits been reachedmikeyOhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-16915597128357273872010-07-19T15:48:37.641-07:002010-07-19T15:48:37.641-07:00Helm writes the way I talk after a few brews. Half...Helm writes the way I talk after a few brews. Half of those bands are already long-time favorites of mine, and I have drunkenly waxed poetic on Coroner, Anacrusis, Forced Entry and Voivod (Now that's a Monsters of Rock tour!) on numerous occasions. I suspect these others will find their way into the pantheon.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342128832508476425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-58939977859028686712010-07-19T15:11:27.382-07:002010-07-19T15:11:27.382-07:00Asa: Sure... but what about this nun!Asa: Sure... but what about this nun!Helmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00584102280299430293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-55022191379504470552010-07-19T12:56:52.439-07:002010-07-19T12:56:52.439-07:00FYI: "Pale Sister" is most likely about ...FYI: "Pale Sister" is most likely about a nun. Saw a Mental Vortex-era tour shirt that had a graphic of a nun on it and said the song title in block letters.Asahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08053291473154861266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-54469140864008180082010-07-19T12:40:49.249-07:002010-07-19T12:40:49.249-07:00Shelby, yup, I'm a dingus AND a doofus, and qu...Shelby, yup, I'm a dingus AND a doofus, and quite possibly a wallywick too. Helm, from what i understand, a lot of the material from the upcoming (allegedly) Watchtower LP 'Mathematics' has its origins in material over 10 years old. I suspect that it may take them a while to get back into their stride since they've all been off doing other things. I DEFINITELY wouldn't write 'em off though.The Thing That Should Not Behttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07222586604167248445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-51498159443455046932010-07-19T12:30:27.467-07:002010-07-19T12:30:27.467-07:00Ahhhhhhh, good to see my beloved Mekong Delta gett...Ahhhhhhh, good to see my beloved Mekong Delta getting some proper and extremely thorough respect. Mayhaps I'll go post some...abdul alhazredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05982568364875527633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6645554669355760340.post-87921133153380574762010-07-19T11:19:43.540-07:002010-07-19T11:19:43.540-07:00Yes, you're right about Watchtower, I was thin...Yes, you're right about Watchtower, I was thinking about the instrumentalists, I hope such errors can be excused.<br /><br />I'm aware about The Size of Matter, it's grown on me some since I heard it first but I wouldn't say it's the best thing Watchtower have done. I was hoping for them to move as far from the Control and Resistance blueprint as that record was far from the debut blueprint.Helmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00584102280299430293noreply@blogger.com